Jay Byrd 0:02
It's June 28 2022. I'm at the Hafa Adai Golf Classic, the 39th annual golf tournament that's hosted this year by the CHamoru Golf Club of Washington state. We're at the Hawkes Praire golf course and I'm at the range hitting some blue golf balls to honor my friends recently departed father, Mr. Jack Burnett. His daughter is an incredible advocate for me in my profession as a content designer. She told me his favorite color is blue and that this is his favorite course, rest and peace Jack.
This place is everything I've imagined in the Pacific Northwest. Sprawling fairways that meander through tall timber of Douglas fir, red cedar, maple, and a lot of pine trees. There's picturesque ponds and wetlands. The fairways are lined with this, like dense old forests. And whether it's an occasional break in the trees, there's a view to Puget Sound.
And this just isn't a normal golf course today, because it's filled to the max with the indigenous people from the Marianas Islands, the CHamorus and our allies, almost 200 of us in total. The whole vibe is idyllic. The air is crisp, and between the sparrow singing and the cute, chubby chickadees chirping. You hear the Manåmko' the elders speaking CHamoru, and the manhoben youngsters speaking in English. We're all over the course. And we've traveled from all over the world to be here.
Ryan Blas 1:44
Good morning everybody, welcome to the 39th Hafa Adai Golf Classic. Thank you to everybody for coming from all over the world.
Jay Byrd 1:47
That was Ryan Bloss, the president of the Chamorro Golf Club of Washington State. It was during those remarks that I had this damn near anxiety attack that I shared in the last episode. But that's when I heard "Aye boy nephew Castro". It got me out of my head and into the game. I felt the connection to the mission of the Hafa Adasi Golf Classic. I felt connected to the people who were there especially this person Manåmko' Tun Diego Hammet
Diego Hammet 2:14
Yeah, that was the purpose behind that when you started this Hafa Adai Golf Classic, you know, the camaraderie the friendship. Especially we know when, ya know, we're getting ready leave.
Jay Byrd 2:39
This is the Red Rice and Fina'denne' Podcast. I'm Jay Byrd Castro, familian Jeje and Piyu. And like the traditional dish red rice with fina'denne', podcast is a traditional platform, but the talk story, that's the pop, that talk that'll have you coming back for hours.
Today's episode is dedicated the Hafa Adai Golf Classic. The people who are behind it, the people who play it and the future of what it can become. More after the break.
Hafa Adai y'all this is a community Chenchule break my first one. This one's to tell you about this box I just got in the mail from the company I work with DoorDash the indigenous ERG reached out to a company called Brand Marinade to fulfill their merchandise requests and ship it out to the employees like me. It came with a shirt that has not shrunk after multiple washes, a hoodie that I sleep in every night because it's so soft. And a kangaroo crew, a kangaroo crew? It's a crew neck sweater with pockets. Full disclosurel; my brother is the owner of Brand Marinade, I'm biased what can I say? Support CHamoru-owned business. He does corporate swag. He does merchandise for your ecommerce solutions. Hell, he even does ecommerce solutions for you. You can get five shirts or you can get 5000 shirts. And don't be afraid to hit him up. He is all about empowering the community and the culture. Check them out on his website brandmarinade.com That's www.brandmarinade.com. Brand Marinade, cuz it's all in the sauce.
And we're back. So I called Tum Diego Hamett after the tournament, and we had a great conversation on the phone. We talked about his extensive military career. We talked about the time he did jump training and how there were 17 CHamoru in his airborne company. Yet he was the only one named Hammett. It confused everyone. He touched on his four tours in Vietnam, the time that he got ambushed. And when he lost his brother, rest in peace. He's a proud husband and he's a proud father. He's a grandfather to more grandchildren than we can count on our hands and our feet. So today I'm only going to share portions of the interview that relates to the Hafa Adai Golf Classic, because I'm going to put something together with his family that I think can make him proud and something that can positively add to his legacy. Because let me tell you, Tum Diego Hammett is creating an amazing legacy and I'm just so happy to witness it. So we'll hear more from Tum Diego in the future episodes. Here he is for now.
Diego Hammet 5:21
Ok then, I'll start. Hafa adai taotao Guam yan todu hamyu CHamoru mañelu-hu yan mañaina-hu. Na’an-hu si Diego Matetni Mafnas Hammett.
Jay Byrd 5:31
another pause here. I don't speak tomorrow, but I did get to work with Benny Anderson, the founder of I Sakman. That's isakman.com And Benny helped me translate what he's saying from CHamoru into English, and I will be giving you a shortened version in English.
Diego Hammet 5:49
I primera na saina-hu, si Tan Felicita Duenas Materne Cruz Mafnas Atoigue. Taotao Hågat antes, lao man makpo’ i gera manhanao hulo’ yan mañaga Talo'fo'fo. Guahu mafañagu Talofofo.
Jay Byrd 6:06
His biological mother is from Hågat, and eventually settled in Talo'fo'fo after the war.
Diego Hammet 6:13
Guahu mafañagu Talo'fo'fo. Eyu na kumahulo’ esta ki dosse años idåt-hu. yan kumahulo’ manhami yan i lalahi siha na gang. yan mansanagati (sakåti) ham, manåguaguat, manátaktak nu mampos man desbulao-hu i tinigon.
Jay Byrd 6:32
He was born and raised and Talo'fo'fo, Guam until he was 12 years old. He was hanging out with the kids, kind of up to no good, starting to make in trouble in the neighborhood. He was eventually adopted
Diego Hammet 6:46
Pues guaha nu amerikanu yan meksikana manstation Guam. Siha nu kumonne yu’ yan ma’adopt hao. Eyu na ma tulaika i na’an-hu. Pago i na’an-hu si Diego Mafnas Hammett I yo-ku adopted father, taotao North Carolina, si Merrell T. Hammett. I yo-ku adopted mother, taotao Loredo, Texas, si Mañuela Flores Hammett.
Jay Byrd 7:13
His adopted parents are Merrell T. Hammett. from North Carolina, an American soldier stationed on Guam and a Mexican American from Laredo, Texas Mañuela Flores Hammett.
Diego Hammet 7:26
Si nana-hu na bandan i CHamoru, Familian Katdu, Familian Gaspat yan todu Materne yan i Duenas, parentes-mami, i Castro parentes-mami, i Mafnas parentes-mami, Tenorio, parentes-mami, gi CHamoru na banda.
Jay Byrd 7:47
And as you hear he goes on to describe the number of CHamoru families and clans that his biological parents are from. CHamoru abundant.
He then goes on to describe the number of people who helped start the classic and all the different cities or regions who participate. There's an article in the show notes that has the complete list of the founders of the Hafa Adai Classic. It truly does take a village to do this sort of stuff. And we appreciate everyone who helped make this happen and who continues to make it happen today. Here's Benny Anderson, and among many things, he's on the board or the Hafa Adai Classic and he's got a lot of the history down.
Benny A. 9:11
The Hafa adai Golf Classic started in 1982 by Sugundo “Sy” Unpingco. The San Jose golf club also started by Mr. Unpingco. had regular golf outings with family and friends. The word spread to other communities and cities were CHamorus lived like Monterey Fort Ord San Diego, Los Angeles, phileo, Sacramento and eventually Washington State. Though not the classic, a spin off of the golf tournament called The Chamorro Open was held in Reno, Tahoe area and had big CHamoru business sponsors and was held during the golden years of the CHamoru golf. During these years it was common for CHamorus to travel throughout the year attending individual golf club monthly tournaments up and down the west coast supporting fundraising efforts.
Jay Byrd 9:54
Now back to Diego.
Diego Hammet 9:57
I started playing golf in Guam as a young boy you know 9,10. Till I left at 12 years old. Back in Guam, we skipped parochial school we go caddy to go go play golf. And back then grown up in the village you know, being I mean we were poor family and hey we try to help every way we can you know to make sure we have some cash money to buy groceries for the family to eat. Other than being a farmer you know, a rancher growing this and growing that to subsidize the food, but we will go play golf at the Windward Hill Golf Course. Mr. Holbrook every Wednesday it's Caddy day you go, he give you clubs and balls you go play golf. Go teach yourself how to play golf and then we do and the boys will bet a nickel a whole you know see who who got the best court and the guy was a nickel from everybody. And CHamoru they hate to lose and need to pay. The Hafa Adai Classic were started 1984 the first tournament was started down at Fort Ord California. I played in that one, didn't do good. But guess what? I made the first hole in one. I missed my ball on the par 3 and it rolled all the way up to the green and when right into the hole. Cost me $780 buying drinks. But everybody enjoyed it because it's not their money. It was part of the money that was given to me.
Jay Byrd 11:27
This was my first year playing in the Hafa Adai Classic. I didn't know what to expect, but I didn't know that there was some betting involved and I'm always down to gamble and bet
Diego Hammet 11:36
but and I continue playing the Hafa Adai Classic. Different golf courses that we go out. And all these CHamoru comrades and CHamoru buddies meet to challenge each other who's the best golfer. And then we go to Las Vegas, Reno for the tournament. Then we go up to Washington.
Jay Byrd 11:57
Here's Benny again.
Roy Leon Guerrero 11:59
Early classics included CHamoru fiesta style award banquets. Many consider the Washington State club fiestas is the pinnacle of hospitality, generosity, and CHamoru culture. Think roast pigs, deer kelaguin, and fruitbat stews.
Jay Byrd 12:15
Yo, we were just in Washington for the Classic and I can confirm that their hospitality is on point it's top notch. Shout out to Greg Meno and the entire family for the barbecue. And while I didn't see fruit bat stew there, I don't even know if I would have eaten it. Because I could already hear my son Kalani Joe being like,
Kalani Joe C. 12:32
Papa you know fanihis are endangered, so don't eat fruit bat stew.
Jay Byrd 12:38
It was at this barbecue. I got to meet Ryan Blas the gentleman you heard in the loudspeaker earlier and the president of the Washington club. Here he is again.
Ryan Blas 12:46
So my name is Ryan Blas. I grew up in Guam, 18 years. And then I joined the Army in 1996. And then did 22 years and two days. And then I retired out here. Yeah,
Jay Byrd 13:05
So what is what is the daily life for Ryan now?
Ryan Blas 13:07
Well, I'm back working because my wife, of course said I cannot stay home. So I work for the government again. I'm just you know, I help soldiers medically bored out of the Army, if they're unfit for duty. Yeah. That's pretty cool.
Jay Byrd 13:23
So I just asked him, What was your favorite part of the Classic this year?
Ryan Blas 13:27
The favorite part of this week is today, the ending part. No, it was it was cool. It was a meeting, you know, a lot of uncles that you didn't know exists. And then when, when they asked you who's your dad, who you know, you know how it is? Who's your dad? Who's your mom? Huh? I'm your uncle. And then now you know, you just meet all of these. And then you know how it is?
Jay Byrd 13:48
To be real. I know how it is because I'm on this trip, and I met two new uncles and two new auntie's and let me tell you, I am so happy that I met them. Because now I get to hang out with them. And I'm hearing stories of my aunties and uncles who I grew up with from aunties and uncles I just met today. It is so dope. I'm so thrilled. And the best part is is like now I'm like "Oh, curiosity kicks in. My mom's Italian Sicilian is coming out. Let me ask you some questions. Because I bet me and you, Ryan, I think we're related." And look, I always temper my expectations when it comes to situations like this because my family's last name is Cruz and Castro Cruz in the Marianas Islands is like Smith in the United States and Castro, well, everyone just thinks I'm Cuban. So I say "Tell me about your last name."
Ryan Blas 14:35
I'm a Blas.
Jay Byrd 14:37
Eh, not related. And then he pauses and then says
Ryan Blas 14:40
And my mom's a Cruz
Jay Byrd 14:41
And I'm like, "Whoa, why did you say something?" My puppy dog years go up. And so I started asking further clarifying questions. "Cruz, from where?"
Ryan Blas 14:48
From Ipan, Talo'fo'fo.
Jay Byrd 14:50
Ah, naw. My family's not from Ipan or Talo'fo'fo. Dang.
Ryan Blas 14:54
Well, they're originally from Inalåhan.
Jay Byrd 14:56
Okay. I heard a lot of stories about my family being from Inalåhan too. "What are the family names?"
Ryan Blas 15:00
I know they call my my grandfather. I don't remember.
Jay Byrd 15:04
Yeah, I'm asking because my grandmother was Cruz she's Jeje Cruz.
Ryan Blas 15:09
You know what, that's what it is; Jeje. Yes, it is. Yes.
Jay Byrd 15:12
Stop, See, that's what I'm saying.
Ryan Blas 15:13
Yeah, that's cool man.
Jay Byrd 15:15
And sure enough, after I returned from the Classic, I go to my very Sacred family tree book called "Ramas de Jeje." And in there, I find his grandfather, first cousin to my grandmother. Damn, it feels good to be a CHamoru. I swear I should have been an archaeologist, or historian, or detective or something like that. But that seemed to be the theme of the Hafa Adai Golf Classic for me was, the idea of connecting with old friends, meeting new friends, and meeting family for the first time. This wasn't just unique to my circumstance, or even Ryan's, because Diego has been doing this for over 30 years.
Diego Hammet 15:53
Yeah. But and every time we go and play the Hafa Adai Classic, you know, we always meet new friends. Now, it's not only for CHamorus, we got all kind of ethnic groups, all kind of nationalities, you know, from different states. They come they fly to play. Because they love the game of golf. And I love the game of golf. The barbecue was great. It was good, good gathering. The food was great. The people were oh, they're superb. You meet old friends, you meet new friends, you meet relatives, and you meet some friends you don't want to meet. But that's okay. The people, I meet lot of nieces and nephews that I've been seeing 30, 40, 50 years and they were all surprised to see me. They thought I was killing Vietnam but I thought it wasn't me or my brother David that got killed in Vietnam.
Jay Byrd 16:48
This idea of reconnecting and meeting family for the first time is so inspiring to me. And I really, really want to pay homage to Sy Unpingco and all the other people that Tun Diego mentioned earlier for starting this Hafa Adai Golf Classic as a way to get friends together to play golf. And golf really just may be the excuse to get us together and keep traditions alive. And then there's the idea of bringing your family with you. This is my newly learned uncle and his wife. They're role models when it comes to family and the holiday classic. I got the rest of these interviews while I was at the banquet at the Little Creek Casino Resort. So it's a little loud in the background, but you get to enjoy the music, too. One band is called Napu and they played at the banquet, and the other band I didn't get their name, but they played at the barbecue.
So tell me your name and where you're from.
Frank Torres 17:36
My name is Frank Torres, from Jacksonville, Florida. Originally, I'm from Barrigada, Guam.
Jay Byrd 17:43
He's 74 years old, plays golf five days a week, and known around the tournaments for just being hella good at golf for a long time. Kind of like my Kamudu Nino, Frank Cruz San Nicholas— just a steady, good golfer.
Frank Torres 17:59
So I really enjoy my life, especially with my wife. She's really taking care of me.
Jay Byrd 18:07
Uncle Frank is humble, he's happy, and he just shows a lot of love to my auntie. Every year for the last 20 years they have been going to the Hafa Adai Golf Classic together—as a couple.
Frank Torres 18:19
Every where I go play golf, she comes with me.
Jay Byrd 18:22
"Yea, I like that." Yeah. I'm gonna make sure my wife hears this part. Honey, this message is for you. I know you're listening. This is your official invite in front of everyone. Join me at the Classic next year. Make it a spa day.
This is my auntie Annie. I just met her on this trip. But talking to her and looking at her makes me feel like I've known her my whole life. She reminds me of my auntie Nelli mixed with my aunti Cilla.
Annie Torres 18:51
It gives you a chance to really meet up with all the other people not just that, you know, just not like just you and meeting other golfers. But the wifes and there's quite a few wifes that follow their husbands around.
Jay Byrd 19:03
And soon there's going to be quite a few husbands following their wives who are playing. Look at how many women won awards tonight
Annie Torres 19:09
That's right. Like Lola, she's took up golf and now she and Lenny would golf. And so, you know,
Jay Byrd 19:16
So the only reason I was able to meet uncle Frank and auntie Annie was because during the pregame on the first day of the golf, Lenny Scimeca, who we met in the last episode, he heard Joseph and I describe ourselves and our family as Kamudu. And so he introduced us to another uncle.
Lenny S. 19:34
Oh, I bet I've heard that name before. Yeah.
Jay Byrd 19:40
Look, I know technically I'm not Kamudu, but you know I'm CHamory so technically kind of goes out the window. But just by looking at this next uncle, I can see that we're related. He's short, stocky, you could tell he's got thick bones and thick muscles. He looks just like me—like a dense beast.
Joe Kamudu 19:57
The name is Joseph C San Nicolas, they call me Joe Kamudu on Guam
Jay Byrd 20:03
Uncle Joe Kamudu is first cousins with my dad. And he's quite the legend from what I hear on the golf course and with the fire department on Guam.
Joe Kamudu 20:11
I retired with the Guam fire department 27 years, I'm retried since '95.
Jay Byrd 20:18
He eventually tells me that as the former fire chief of Guam Fire Department, he helped introduce EMTs and paramedics as part of the fire department emergency services. That's amazing.
Joe Kamudu 20:30
And I'm out here playing this Classic every year that they had it, but because of this COVID you know, they, they canceled several ones.
Jay Byrd 20:41
And beyond Uncle Joe Kamudu, simply visiting from the islands to participate in the classic every year. He's sort of a liaison between the Classic and the groups out here in the states to those on the islands.
Joe Kamudu 20:53
I play with the Guam Seniors couple years ago since I believe 2000, I think 2009. Several times the president of this club here, he's for Guam and he from Dededo, Mr. Roy Leon Guerrero, and what we do is several other players from different states, they asked to set up a round of golf in Rota, Guam, and Saipan. So I coordinate that whenever they come down to you know, I know some people that plays golf in those places. We set it up and we go there play. We enjoyed it.
Jay Byrd 21:35
Yo, where's the list of sign up for that? I'm down to go to Luta and go play some golf with someone manåmko'.
Joe Kamudu 21:41
This golf here now is, for my age, you know, you don't have to run or anything like that, but but still have some injuries from the military, from Vietnam. I served Vietnam in 1969, a year. But it was okay, at least I survived. That's all that I'm happy about. And at least uh, I'm here playing golf out here in the States. I love to play all the other places too. I go to the Philippines, I got to Hanoi, Vietnam. And we play golf there with several of our groups from the Guam Seniors. So golf is pretty much it, you know? It's good, it's fun, meet relatives, friends, from long, long ago. And that's how that's why it's very nice to be coming out here and meeting everybody. It's good.
Jay Byrd 22:42
So we're seated at a round, white cloth banquet table, eating there. It's myself, Joseph, Frank and Annie, Lenny and Dolores, and Kamudu Joe. There's an agenda to the banquet, and it was on time and it was time to announce the winners of all the bets. By the end of the night, lots of people won for playing amazing golf. And we made it so fun for our table was that we had to Joseph San Nicholas' at one table. And between the two of them, their name was called a lot. They did well, this tournament. The chairman and Ryan Blas eventually had to use the middle initial to differentiate and then speak an emphasis on it.
Joseph San Nicolas. Which one? Joseph C. San Nicholas.
So we golfed, we've been at the barbecue, we went to the banquet. The only thing that I didn't get to participate in because I didn't know about it is the Inetnon Man Gachong. It's the pre-tournament welcoming, you know, let's let Benny tell you.
Roy Leon Guerrero 23:48
the Inetnon Man Gachong is a direct connection to the first classic. An informal gathering of family and friends, a small intimate event with home cooking, and the telling of stories, singing, and music all gathered around the barbecue pit. In current times, the Inetnon Man Gachong has become a welcoming over ritual by the host club for out of towners, long distance travelers in pre-tournament days. A meeting place with familiar faces to get thank yous out to visitors and get everyone comfortable before a friendly competition.
Jay Byrd 24:30
Here's Ryan Blas again.
Ryan Blas 24:32
First thank you right for all our members, their family members. A lot of people to all the players yesterday, they came out to the barbecue. You know those that were still there when it was time to break down, it's just like back home, right? Everybody helps put stuff away. You know, just all the members too. They all did some hard work and they get it they did a good job.
Jay Byrd 24:53
And this is what his club is doing up in Washington to try and change the future the Classic so it can continue to last generations.
Unknown Speaker 25:02
Our club here, in Washington, they started in 1993. So of course, our club, they want it to go younger, because, you know, it's just a bunch of, you know, the older guys that's been, you know, you know, all the manåmko' and, you know, they're always complaining, you know, ugh you young guys. So they voted us in and, and then we just, you know, we took over and then happens to be that this is the year that our club was doing the Hafa Adai Classic.
Jay Byrd 25:30
If what Ryan is doing in Washington is a sign as to what's to come for the rest of the clubs around the United States. The designer in me wants to reframe this whole narrative into a problem statement. Indigenous legacies and traditions can't pass with our elders, they need to evolve with the people and adapt to modern times. So how can the Classic be more than just golf? How can it be about family, culture, and connecting back to our Indigenous roots? I want my kids to play in the Classic, and maybe even their kids, too. Here's what the chairman of the Hafa Adai Golf Classic Mariano Roy Cruz Leon Guerrero had to say about the future.
Roy Leon Guerrero 26:08
I want to share two things with you. Number one, I want you to note that in the past few years, our organization kind of declined, we were down to about three, active Hafa Adai Golf Classic clubs that were sponsoring, hosting the classic. So our goal as the board of directors, we decided, we need to grow the organization. One, we need young people in. Two, we're gonna get this set up, we're gonna motivate people to keep the Classic, the spirit of the Classic going. And I'm happy to report that we have the six clubs are active right now. So you gonna start seing the rotation of the Hafa Adai Golf Classic, not only in three places, but in four. We got 4 clubs in California, one in Nevada, and one in Washington. And we're still working on one more the original clubs in San Diego, that will bring us to seven. And furthermore, one of the original tenats of the Hafa Adai Golf Classic was to have the Classic here in the mainland, and have the Classic in the island. So we're looking forward to that adventure. But the first thing we're gonna do is that we need resources. So we are looking at nonprofit organization. We are looking at sponsors to let people know who we are and what we do. And we got to do more than golf. We're gonna do more like education, do more with amateur golf, and giving back to the community, so that we can get deep sponsors to come in and sponsor our mission and what we are doing. So that's all we have. It's not going to happen this year. But that goal, I envision that goal to be in place in the next three years.
Jay Byrd 28:04
So there's a plan, there's a vision, and there's opportunity to manayuda to help the elders pass on the torch. Take a rest. You've done enough. Si Yu'us ma'ase, thank you. When I think about it, it kind of reminds me of a modern day story of sea voyaging. So let's close our eyes. And imagine you're surrounded by beautiful coral reef, off a limestone island in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. We all get on our sakmans, the canoes, and we voyage the sea, not knowing which island we're headed to only knowing that we're all headed to the same place when we follow the same stars. Every year, when the wet season ends, and the dry season begins. This year, we're breaking bread and metaphoric coconuts, at the Little Creek Casino owned and operated by the Squaxin native tribe. This tribe is known as the people in the water, they have and they still do care for the land where the Pacific waters reached the southern point of the Salish Sea. There's no coincidence there, the CHamorus of people the water, too. Same ocean, different canoe. So it's up to us, the next generation, to keep it going, to make it last, well forever,
Diego Hammet 29:26
The Hafa Adai Classic, you know, with the now younger generation, we need to be you know, strong about it. Positive thinking you know, visualize the future of the game of where this Hafa Adai Classic is going to. We cannot stop we cannot forget for those names that I mentioned who started the organization 40 some years ago you know, eh, a lot of hard work but it pays off in the long run. Everybody was happy. So anyway that that's all I got to say.
Jay Byrd 30:07
Thank you to everyone on the planning committee, on the board, and everyone else who made the Hafa Adai Golf Classic a success this year and for the last 40 years. Thank you to the hotel staff of the Little Creek Casino, and everyone else who helped with the barbecue. Greg, thank you for the polo with the Washington logo on it I really appreciate it. Thanks to the family members of the Washington club for assisting throughout the golf course, taking pictures, saying hello, offering us cold water, and being just hella friendly. Thank you. Thank you to everyone who interviewed...
Diego Hammet 30:35
Diego Matetni Mafnas Hammett
Benny A. 30:37
Frank Torres 30:39
Jay Byrd 30:40
Joe Kamudu 30:41
Joseph C San Nicolas
Jay Byrd 30:43
Lenny Scimeca, Roy Leon Guerrero.
Music in today's episode was from a band at the barbecue sorry, I didn't get their name, a band by the name of Napu who played at the banquet, and Sabyu for Whispering Palms on The Whispering Palms album, and me—I created some tracks, too.
Sound Design by me. Mastered by Sabyu.
It was written, produced, and edited by me.
As a call to action, visit the Hafa Adai Golf Classic website and sign up for the classic. Come play golf with us June 28 and 29th 2023 in Sacramento California, and thanks for listening
Kalani Joe C. 31:29
I'm Kalani Joe Castro. I like red rice with a little bit of fina'denne' on top. A little bit of spicy, just a widdy bit, like a baby spice. Thank you for listening to Fina'denne' podcast.